Zach explains where mental illness comes from, citing the commonly accepted notion that it is a physiological phenomenon. But also pointing out that mental illness can be useful. It can serve a purpose. Ethan agrees with him (for once), mentioning the creative juice of bipolar (not) illness. Zach talks about Will Hall, of Madness Radio fame, who has Schizophrenia and has managed to succeed in spite of it. What’s the difference between bipolar disorder and schizophrenia? But why does that matter anyway, when you can have your cake and eat it too with schizoaffective disorder!
Ethan tries to avoid the word, “illness,” substituting “bunny rabbits” instead. Zach suggests that brain damage is a mental illness. Justine disagrees vehemently. And Ethan agrees with her (as usual). He says that what sets a mental illness apart from brain damage is that there is no known origin for mental illness.
Zach says: In Jungian psychology, all mental phenomena are teleological. Depression is the ego responding to negative circumstances of life. So depression is not actually an illness, it is a response to the world. Ethan thinks this is absurd. And plenty of people would agree that mental illness is purely a physiological phenomenon. Justine saves the day by seeing the truth in what Zach is saying, but asking, at what point do we pathologize depression. And why do we still feel like crap afterward?
Zach plays Socrates. Or Zachrates, as it were, worrying about the wetter wobble water. And claiming that the grass is always greener on the Zach side of the fence. Ethan tries to get everyone to take up arms, with or against mental illness. What do we do with it? Is it even a problem? Ethan mentions suffering, then explodes creatively all over the places. Vis-à-vis Vincent van Gogh. Take the down with the up, says Justine. Know thyself, says Zach.
Does religion cure mental illness? Not the gunpoint style of religion, though. Can you really cure it? Zach speaks of the phases of life of a plant. Why? We may never know…What we do know is that the plant becomes too big. You can cure mental illness by finding the cause and becoming one with it. Like Luke Skywalker. Obviously! Justine hits the table, but learns to embrace it.